Not all these mangos are perfect, maybe 1 in 4, but most all are are better than imported mangos. especially on the top. I recommend using LaVern Manilla seedlings as rootstocks because they are easily found and relatively uniform in regards to their performance around SoCal. What do you think? As your tree grows, it will need to be moved to a large pot every 2 or 3 years, until it maxes out to around a 30-gallon pot. My first round of seedlings a couple years ago got uprooted by my chickens when only knee high. Germinated over 30 ataulfo seeds over the past 2 years and none survived past a few weeks. I should first qualify, or disqualify, myself as I am a relatively new mango grower and my trees are not the largest nor healthiest. We do notice that … Or should we buy manilla rootstocks and graft them all to make sure that we don't lose the trees altogether? Our conditions here in So. If you're trying to save money or plan on doing a lot of your own grafting, you will need a lot more starting material and I recommend planting lots of polyembryonic and Monoembryonic seeds from store bought mangos that you eat. Don't try nam doc, it splits as a result of Southern California Winter temperature and moisture swings. For those of us that have grafted seedling trees or have purchased pre grafted trees, I often get the question of when do I prune off the blooms or flowers? growers. A couple years ago I tried the CA mangos at Whole Foods (in Idaho) and was amazed. One thing to consider in southern california for mangos are rootstocks. The real challenge is in preventing them from setting fruit, or at least not too much fruit, when young so that they actually grow significant foliage. green to yellow : fiberless I am puttingnthem at dame location next to each other to see if growth rate is indeed difference. Tammy says: April 17, 2013 at 4:32 pm. A new Mango grower is often attracted to the beautiful small potted mango trees in full bloom often holding some small fruit. I’d sure love to have a mango tree! JF and simon have been experimenting with rootstocks. I learned to love mango while traveling in SE Asia over the years but was always disappointed with mangos in the US. It spread e… Bucklew was trialling dozens of mango varieties in Encinitas back in the 1930s, Here is a video about one of the mango farms, Wong Farms, in the Southern California desert, http://tropicalfruitforum.com/index.php?topic=23124.0, Beware of rootstock suckers on citrus trees, How much and how often to water avocado trees in California, Southern California food gardening calendar for 2021. Trees are mostly sold as grafted saplings but some varieties can be grown from the seed. This year the CA mangos were available almost to Xmas. They seem to handle the soil pH and salts better and they aren’t grafted so a bit more robust. Saving the Parent Washington Navel orange tree, A guy named L.L. I want to wait until we are at night temps over 65, by that time, blooms are over and fruitlets are formed. Picking The Best Variety. I’ve got my fruit punch in a raised mound and was giving it nothing but rain water while I could and now I fill a rain barrel with tap water and let it sit out for 2 days and pH it with citric acid (7.8 down to 6.5) and keep it oxygenated with aquarium stones and that’s what I water my avocado and mango trees with. Ideally, plant it on a 7-foot mound away from other plants and structures. Since container trees don’t have nutrients readily available, it’s up to you to be consistent with fertilizing. Related species: Bindjai (Mangifera caesia), Horse Mango (M. foetida), Kuweni mango (M. odorata). Thanks. We have carry a cultivars suited for landscape planting as well as smaller varieties that are suitable for growing in containers. But wait, we can grow mangos in California? This is in contrast to seedling mangos. Last year we made the mistake of cutting of the flowering stalks and they flowered again. ", Login with username, password and session length. I’ve seen a beautiful mango tree in Tustin, Orange County. The thing to keep in mind is that the season for these California Keitt mangos is now, so don’t bother looking for them much outside of September and October. This is a worthy thread for anyone to bookmark especially SoCal mango growers. With a notable inventory of larger-sized stock, California Tropical is also uniquely poised to provide mature trees, in quantity, that are already bearing substantial flowers and fruit. Yes, usually branches on the south and west sides of the canopy, or the south- or west-facing sides of any individual branch, gets the most sunburn. That’s the plan. glenn mango tree: {{gwi:1335255}} alphonso mango tree: {{gwi:1332434}} and the new set up my husband just put up yesterday: {{gwi:562899}} my dragonfruit: {{gwi:1335256}} Here is a link that might be useful: Growing Tropical Fruit in Northern California Read on for more information about growing fruit trees in zone 9. Designed by Elegant Themes | Powered by WordPress, Click to share on Facebook (Opens in new window), Click to share on Pinterest (Opens in new window). The huge trees in Leo Manuels yard is proof that random seedlings do perform well here but some varieties may be more or less prone to diseases. I moved my avocado trees to where I plan to put into the ground so I cant say which direction the branches with the black were facing but I will check on the older tree to see which direction. Dwarf Fig Tree. Also, the Turpentine rootstock has so many issues that I prefer to start new and use the Turpentine tree for scions only. JF and simon have been experimenting with rootstocks. I have some nice big ones (one looks to be a couple lbs.) The mango tree was first discovered in the Indo-Burma region that extends from eastern India and southern China across Southeast Asia. I assumed this process killed the deep but subtle flavors I loved in Asian mangos. This year, we left them on and are painstakingly removing the pea sized fruit one by one. Question: I would like to figure which variety it is. OR which are the best area in CA where we can grow mango successfully? Your tree comes in a 3-gallon/10” pot, and you can step it up gradually as follows: 3 gallon/ 10” pot. Origin:The mango is native to southern Asia, especially Burma and eastern India. I'm just trying to compile all pertinent information into this thread and I'm lazy so I am copying a reply I posted on another thread. Oblong-shaped, Ataulfo Mango fruit has a deep yellow, buttery and non-fibrous flesh that is rich and spicy, and high in sugar content. An elderly woman came to the door. I am letting my Manilla and Kent seedlings grow and develop in the ground and then I will graft top cultivars onto them. A mango tree can live for 100 years. There are more than 500 hundred cultivars of mango. 16. I will provide links to threads of great significance where needed and I will include links to scholarly articles and research where pertinent. The first to make our list of the best fertilizer for mango tree is what is called Citrusgain by BGI. Is it on a horizontal or south- or west-facing part of branches? It gets a lot more technical and the flowering article I linked to at the top of this thread explains the science in detail. Choose from a vast assortment of great tasting varieties such as Alphonso, Kent and Nam Doc Mai and many more! I had planted a few grafted trees, but I grew impatient with their insistence on flowering and trying to fruit. . Usually, black on an avocado branch is from sunburn. Notify me via e-mail if anyone answers my comment. The one in the photo above was in the yard of my neighbor in the Hillcrest part of San Diego. Thanks simon for the great thread. If I can I send you a pic that would be great, I don’t use cages for my trees; I use Cinch Traps for gophers in my yard. They grow into a large, spreading trees that can reach 20 feet tall or more. Whether soft or firm, sweet or tart, they rarely get as orange, pink, red, or yellow as some other mango varieties. In January a savage freeze ravaged most of California’s big desert mango orchards, but left Chamberlain’s 2-acre planting miraculously unscathed. Second, mangos can be picked mature but green (hard) and ripened off the tree, on the kitchen counter. BRs, Chetan. I am conducting an experiment on two julie trees. For more than two decades, California Tropical Fruit Tree nursery has proven the viability of its inventory for successful long-term growth in Southern California. Should I choke at the price: 3 for $10? Although they grow like weeds in some tropical areas, such as Kona, Hawaii, you can help a mango tree remain healthy and produce the maximum amount of fruit by fertilizing it correctly, using either an organic plant food or chemicals. It seems like now is the best time ever to grow these things. I’ve got one that I plan to graft on to at some point and it’s putting on a lot of new growth even if my fruit punch isn’t doing squat. Usually it has a lot of fruit. I’ve seen some big and fruitful mango trees in your area. Also some of the avocado trees have black on the branches. The plants seem to be putting on vegetative growth, albeit slowly. They tolerate soils with a pH anywhere from 5.5 to 7.5. A corner of my backyard just opened up and I was looking to plant a not too big mango. A cold night back in February wiped out my mangos, unfortunately. Now I can hardly wait for September. Mango Trees in Containers: 15 Best Mango Varieties for Small Spaces. Most flowered vigorously. Most varieties of this tree grow large and make attractive shade trees with their year-round foliage. I am going to try to grow them in a pot for this winter and maybe put the in the ground next year after it warms up. My (alleged) Lemon Zest from Florida, which I bought about six months ago and is in the ground, has already set a couple dozen fruit but it is also growing new leaves from the base of those panicles, so it's not doing what some others report where trees fruit themselves to death. I’ve got a couple of baby mango trees going in mine. Question regarding the picture with title “Little mango and big mango. Size: Up to 15 feet tall by 15 feet wide. Tropical Fruit Forum - International Tropical Fruit Growers, Growing Mango trees in Southern California, Re: Growing Mango trees in Southern California, http://tropicalfruitforum.com/index.php?topic=15673.0, http://www.scielo.br/scielo.php?pid=S1677-04202007000400007&script=sci_arttext, https://www.instagram.com/manchatropical/, http://tropicalfruitforum.com/index.php?topic=241.0, http://download937.mediafire.com/9gfg1c9as1ig/6ikqa9b0uxoz4el/Breakoutyonemoto.pdf, http://tropicalfruitforum.com/index.php?topic=20816.0, North OC California Zone 10B/America Tropical 13A, Cerritos, Los Angeles,CA, sunset zone 22, USDA 10b, So. The Ataulfo Mango (sometimes referred to as “Adolfo”) tree produces fruit with skin that is gold-blush yellow in color, and generally weighs between 6 and 10 ounces. Amendments can be added on top of the soil and I highly recommend mulching the rhizosphere or drip zone. It is possible to grow a mango tree in containers, but you should choose suitable dwarf varieties. Mango seeds usually take around eight years to produce fruit while grafted saplings take three to five. Water the trees deeply to saturate the long taproot. So, I just found my first half mango on the ground, still hard, but half eaten. You can get Mexican mangos for $1 a piece, right? Mango trees can grow up to 130 feet tall. Wow, nice thread Simon,I haven't read all yet but what i have read is very useful information for Cal. They attack them like buzzards on a carcass. I've tested the pH of the soil and water at several locations all around San Diego and the majority of samples for soil and water were above 7.8. Best of Luck, Stan. Bucklew was trialling dozens of mango varieties in Encinitas back in the 1930s, for example. Rootstocks will be mentioned as part of the discussions on Temperature, diseases and pH. Avoid really wet and heavy soil, rest all are suitable. I plan to start grafting one or two of them once they’re about chest height. We definitely noticed the propensity of these plants to flower. Should I pick and hope they ripen inside, or chance it with the critters. Question - I have an in ground 3 year old LZ on turpentine rootstock that was damaged by my gardener's weed whacker and is now struggling. I like my mangos sweet, so I let them soften and sweeten up before I eat them, but my wife likes her mangos tart, so she cuts the Keitts up while still firm. Every year it is a stand off between me and the rats/squirrels/possums. Regarding everything you are growing out there in Romana, what do you do about gophers. I never know when to harvest. Reply. In fact, every mango you find in stores was picked while it was still hard as a rock and then shipped a thousand miles to California. I would hazard to guess that more rookie Mango growers have killed their mango trees from over watering rather than under watering. If I plant a manila seedling next to it and try an inarch graft, do you think it could recover? I'm a typical lazy backyard gardener, often putting my daughters before my plants so my trees rarely get fertilizer these days and it's probably been over a year since I adjusted the pH of the rootzone with phosphoric acid and Sulfur. This is my son with one of last year’s (2016): My sons go wild for mangos. Thank you! When a tree is first planted, it will need more frequent watering as the roots have not established yet but keep in mind that Mangos are regarded as drought tolerant and when the rootzone is kept constantly moist, there is little physiological need for the plant to send its roots out farther in search of more resources. Once you have your tree planted, keep it watered but don't over do it. If you live in Southern California and you like eating mangos, then why not plant one in your yard too? The mango varieties that we grow represent the finest selections from around the world including those selected here in Florida. Once you get an eye for what a mango tree looks like, you might find yourself spotting them in yards in your neighborhood. Here in Southern California, grafted mango trees flower and try to set fruit when they are only a couple feet tall and they essentially stunt themselves. Check with your local nursery to find out which ones grow best in your area. Vista. We also have the option of using random seedlings as well and the benefit here is that you save a lot of money but you risk getting a sloweror faster growing tree compared to Lavern Manilla. I planted a small mango tree about 8 years ago and I let it fruit (3-7 fruits/yr, rotted before ripening) when young and it seemed to stay about the same size until 2 years ago when it finally started growing and thriving (now 8′) which resulted in an amazing crop this year! I want to protect them when I finally put them in the ground. I would suggest starting a new tree. Common Names:Mango, Mangot, Manga, Mangou. For those Mango growers that don't want to plant seedling( not grafted with mature scions) trees and grow them to maturity before topworking, I have come up with a slightly less involved technique that has not been tested but should work in theory. Big red ones — they’re really good — but this year it didn’t have many. Your general location sounds fine for growing a mango. There are more 500+ varieties of mangoes are grown widely. I do hear that they’re also available at the Santa Monica farmers market although I’ve never been. Thank you in advance. Fast growth. They were planted this season and last season in early spring. Don’t buy a discount tree or the last one on the lot like I did. The tree needs full sun and proper irrigation as standing water will damage it and affect fruit production in the best-case scenario. The trees are self-fertile, so it is possible to have fruit with only one specimen. It’s only commercial farming of mangos in Southern California that is relatively new. Otherwise you risk 2nd bloom and even 3rd and kill the graft. Over watering can decrease oxygen levels, promoting anaerobic conditions which can lead to root rot. My avocado made it out of shock and is growing like crazy, my mango isn’t doing a thing. It is also conceivable that some of the faster growth could be related to actually having a tap root on manilla trees. How have your mango trees done since you wrote this post. We don’t normally shop at Whole Foods Market, but once each year I make a visit in order to buy these California-grown mangos. They have been know to clear the tree pretty quickly. Among some of the oldest avocado trees in California, at The Huntington. But I’ve seen beautiful and fruit-laden mango trees of at least twenty feet in height (which suggests they’re decades old) in many parts of Southern California. Any ideas from this info? Mango tree care is similar to that of any fruit tree. If you have a small yard, you are going to want to avoid this particular tree, a species in the Magnolia family, which can grow upwards of 100 feet tall. Possibly some parts of southern california where they do not get frost. Growing Your Mango in a Container. The Keitt variety originated in Florida, but these mangos were grown in the desert of Southern California — an area called the Coachella Valley — not far from Palm Springs. That was a stick 3-4 years ago when I looked it up on googlmaps. So it seems like a great performer. I bought these three. Mature leaves are 12 inches long, bark is grayish and bumpy. I’ve learned so much from your site, just found doing a search on ‘pruning mango trees in San Diego’. Today I am picking Keitt mango from a tree I planted July 31 last year. The ripened color is rich orange yellow with some red, the flesh is orange, the shape is more oval than flat (pit also) and the fruit is between 4-6 inches long. Mangoes are among the most widely cultivated fruits in the tropics. I am Looking for a Fruit punch Mango locally. This reply has some info on why I feel Sweet Tart could potentially be a good rootstock for us to use in SoCal where I Strongly recommend planting seedlings that are not grafted and letting them reach fruiting size before allowing them to fruit or topworking them one they have established scaffold branches. Wishing you and yours well Greg, I’ll have a poke around the blog haven’t been online in awhile. The mango is native to southern Asia and eastern India. Grafted mangos immediately try to fruit even though their small canopies can’t support such fruit. Mango trees can be found growing in various tropical and sub-tropical regions and are the most widely cultivated tropical fruits throughout the world, with more than 500 cultivated varieties. Dwarf small stature tree, this “condo mango” is an ultra compact grower.The tree is suitable for container growing on a balcony, or planting in a suburban backyard. A grafted tree will begin to bear fruit after 3 to 4 years in the ground, with most varieties being harvested in the summer months. I am a senior person and cant reach to pick fruits if too tall and too lazy to clean rotten fruits on the ground. Moringa I highly recommend using Lavern Manilla seedlings available at most Home Depot's and other garden centers as the number one choice when it comes to rootstocks for growing mango in SoCal. I actually know little other than they are good. I am 2 miles inland in Del Mar. I do updates on it from time to time click my icon. And due to the lack of fiber on these California Keitts, they were able to gnaw so much flesh off the seed the other day that it was this clean when they were finished: The Keitt variety originated in Florida, but these mangos were grown in the desert of Southern California — an area called the Coachella Valley — not far from Palm Springs. For areas where Mango can grow unprotected outdoors, we have the issue of continual flowering caused by the cold weather. . Required fields are marked *. Thanks Tammy. Grafted Keitt, glenn and Ataulfo are the safest. You need not worry about a grafted mango tree growing rapidly too tall for you to reach. Will this continue? This fertilizer has an 8-3-9 nutrient ratio fertilizer and is specially formulated for citrus and trees. I appreciate the Keitt variety in particular because they are delicious sweet or tart. Hillcrest, San Diego, California”, I assume based the story is about 20ft tall. high disease tolerance . Now I’ve caged these new ones. Somewhere I heard mangos imported to the US were required to be steamed. Greg. Mango Tree In Backyard Container. I thinned the fruit by about 1/4 and harvested a couple dozen fabulous mangos which ripened almost all at once in October with the remaining few picked last week, all tree ripened. “Sure, take a picture. The planting hole should be square and not round. The mangos are the best tasting I have ever had, like eating homemade jam, so sweet, tangy and densely flavored. They do need a lot of heat to grow well and ripen their fruit -- summer temperatures in the 80s and 90s (degrees Fahrenheit) are ideal -- so growing them indoors year round may be necessary in the foggy coastal zones of the Bay Area. In the past, I’ve bought them at other Whole Foods Markets, as well as at Trader Joe’s. Yeah, well, these California mangos are bigger, for one thing. I noticed that the California Keitts were both late and small this year at the Whole Foods where I found them, but as usual the taste and texture was still excellent. Hillcrest, San Diego, California. I would pick. I’d guess that you would be satisfied growing any of the varieties that you listed. What is the size of the “little” one your guess? And there are plenty of more specific varieties that you can try out – though the Nam Doc Mai and the Irwin trees are the best in containers. Some can grow more than 100 feet tall and more than 30 feet wide. the problem that people have when there trees are not producing a lot of fruit is they need to fertilize the tree three times a year and looking at your picture it needs a good trim. I really like the Keitt variety but you should try Ice Cream because it’s a good container mango that you can grow on your porch and it doesn’t get massive. They grow fast, up to 50 feet high and 60 feet wide. Hi Chetan, It is not easy to grow mango in Northern California and I do not think it is very viable commercially. What fruits grow in zone 9? Do an image search for “Manila mango” or “Ataulfo mango” and see if the fruit looks similar to yours, but don’t expect it to be identical since seedling trees produce fruit that are somewhat different. This year they’re actually not as big as those I bought last year. We do notice that while on manilla the growth seems to be faster. Or did you plant a seed?”, “We brought a mango back from Hawaii a long time ago and planted the seed.”. Mine had anthracnose and I spent a year nursing it back to health and I’ve now planted it in a raised mound. Check out “Mango Tree in Northern California on YouTube. that was my conclusion too Simon. I have gotten great control over the gophers through learning to use this trap. Zone 10b. My Florida grafted Lemon Zest is holding fruit and starting a new growth flush as well although I have to stake it up and it has major cracks in the trunk.